Give it to me in a nutshell please....

July 15, 2008

Ok here's how my cycles are and how they "flow". On average my cycles are 36 days. I usually have a period between 33-36 days. I only had 1 cycle in which it was 41 days.I have NEVER had a period 28 days. My blood flow has never been abnormally light or abnormally heavy. Always within the normal flow range. Sometimes i will get cramps and sometimes i won't. I have NEVER had spotting between periods and have NEVER gone over 41 days in length.

Do u think in a nutshell that i am ovulating regulary given my history? I have also had 2 pregnancies and 2 healthykids.

July 15, 2008

Sounds to me like you are ovulating regularly Jilly. Your cycles sound very similar to mine. Good Luck.

July 15, 2008

Okay, here goes,

You have ovaries that are predisposed to polycystic ovarian syndrome. If you gained 10lbs, you may find that instead of 41 days, your periods stretch out to 60 days, and likewise if you lose 10lbs, you may find that your periods would be shorter, say 30 days. Because of this, there are some egg quality issues. You are ovulating it just takes sometimes 18-20 days for you to ovulate. In general, when it takes that long then the egg is not very good...some clomid would help...

July 15, 2008

Dr Eva, what indicates to you that ovaries are predisposed to PCOS. My cycles mirror Jilly's, while uss showed cysts on ovaries all tests came back negative to PCOS. If the egg is not going to be a good one how will clomid help, as my consultant told me that the clomid does not mature the egg so that it would be healthy one.

July 15, 2008

I'm all confused now, would appreciate clarification. Many thanks.

July 15, 2008

Suzi u just asked a question i was asking after i saw the answers.. How can clomid help mature an egg? i thought Clomid was just to help ovulate. Im a little confused and scared now that i might not be producing quality eggs.

July 15, 2008

Awwww Jilly Dr Eva has gone now, and I am sooooo confused. Whats your thoughts??

July 15, 2008

Suzi, make sure you post a new question, with a title that relates to the topic, and either Dr. Q or Dr. Littman will take a look when they're back.

thanks

July 15, 2008

Im scared frankly. I have had 2 healthy uneventful pregnancies and my cycles have always been on the longer side. But baffles me that i might be predisposed to PCOS. I am a larger woman but it never stopped me from conceiving my last baby.

July 15, 2008

Me too. I stopped taking clomid this month to minimise multiples but I would have continued with it if I thought that it would mature the eggs into healthy ones as I have had one miscarriage at 8 weeks and one Edwards syndrome at 12 weeks. Perhaps we should post another for Dr Q to clarify for us.

July 15, 2008

Thanks Veronica.

July 15, 2008

I think that this post it all out of sink with the replies LOL!!!

July 15, 2008

i agree. Im confused and worried now. Dr Q told me that 36 days was average but on the longer side of average... nothing about my eggs having bad quality.

July 15, 2008

Yes I got the same info from Dr Q.

July 15, 2008

Jilly, as it was your question initially do you want to post about clomid and mature eggs or shall I?

July 15, 2008

How come your on clomid suzi?

July 15, 2008

U go ahead Suzi, u will probably word it alot better than i as i have never been on clomid or know exactly how it works other then stimulating ovulation.

July 15, 2008

After my 2nd miscarriage my dr just thought that it would boost my eggs. At the time I did not clarify what "boost" meant. I think that after 2 letdowns and due to my age 39 she wanted to help me get pregnant quickly, however uss showed 3 follies last month and dh and I freaked a bit at the thought of multiples so we decided to stop it this month.

July 15, 2008

I doubt I will word it better, but I'll give it a go. Keep an eye out for it and add to it for clarification.

July 15, 2008

oh ok.. im almost 27 so im really hoping i will not have to be on any sort of clomid. I always thought my eggs were good quality.

July 15, 2008

Suzi, how will i be able to find the question?

July 15, 2008

Jilly, I have just posted it. Titled, "does clomid act to mature eggs?"

July 15, 2008

OK thx. i just saw it.

July 15, 2008

Does it clearly ask the question do you think? Just wait for a response now then.

July 15, 2008

it does. but i would sill like dr Q to answer my original question as well...

July 15, 2008

Hopefully he may read this post also as I referred to it in the post. Otherwise repost another one asking for clarification from Dr Littman or Dr Q. Good Luck!!

July 15, 2008

thx. I hope im not pre-PCOS.. UGH

July 15, 2008

How many times can I use the word post in one sentence!!!! LOL

July 15, 2008

Have you had any tests Jilly?

July 15, 2008

lol it's ok.. are u in the chat room? i think it will be much easier to talk to u in there

July 15, 2008

No tests. I really had no reason to honestly. I thought my cycles were average.

July 15, 2008

Ladies - i have to disagree with Dr. Eva. Just b/c your cycle is normal at 36 - 40 days doesn't mean that you have poor eggs. have any of you read the book "Taking Charge of your Fetility". I posted a similar question a while back and Dr. Q didn't say anything about poor egg quality. I believe poor egg quality can happen when you ovulate on cd14 or cd20, just depends. And just b/c you have a longer cycle doesn not mean you have PCOCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The time to worry is when you luteul phase is short. I think we need major clarification here from Dr. Eva.

July 15, 2008

Thank you! I agree w/ u 100%!!

July 15, 2008

Thanks!!

July 15, 2008

I have read taking charge of your fertility and that is a harsh way to put it poor egg quality

I would say that it mean you may not have ovulated

July 15, 2008

i agree - i have read many wonderful stories on here about ladies conceiving from a late ovulation and having beautiful babies!

July 15, 2008

Yes yourgirlaa i agree. Like i said i have never had a 28 day cycle and i have had 2 healthy happy babies.:) SO i disagree w/ Dr. Eva.

July 15, 2008

Jilly - with your two babies did you concieve them with a 36-40 day cycle?

July 15, 2008

I believe so yes. But i wasn't keeping track of my cycle as much as i am now.. but i believe it was that long of cycles..

July 15, 2008

Dear users:

The purpose of the site is for you to read and evaluate all the information provided to you. Different doctors will have different opinions about specific issues. In addition keep in mind the site is not meant to replace your own doctor who will have all your information in front of them. Please also run a search in the site for all references to these topics to learn more about it.

Also keep in mind this is the opinion of Reproductive Endocrinologists who are trained to help patients having difficulties trying to conceive. Some books that have been written out there were not written by fertility specialists, so all perspectives are good to have.

July 15, 2008

Also, keep in mind that "predisposed" only means susceptible. Dr. Eva was not saying you have PCOS...how could she, she doesn't have your charts in front of her.

All she is saying is that women who have longer cycles are susceptible to PCOS, and she offered some suggestions to get yourself out of that susceptible category. You say yourself that you're a "larger" woman, so, don't let her comments scare you. She's just saying that losing a bit of weight may help shorten your cycle and help you get pregnant easier. After all, even if a 36 day cycle is within the "normal" range, it's at the extreme end of the "normal" range, so trying to move it closer to the 28 day average can only help your body conceive.

My cycle was about 22-24 days...also that "normal" range, but on the extreme short side of normal. I, too, was ovulating on my own, but needed Clomid to get pregnant (first try).

Good luck!

July 15, 2008

Thanks everyone. I understand now. I do have a longer cycle and i guess i should just hope for the best on if i am truley ovulating. I do appriciate your answer Dr. Eva.:)

July 15, 2008

Jilly - I would suggest checking cervical mucus as well as using ovulation prediction kit or fertility monitor.

July 15, 2008

Yeah im using my fertility monitor and i will know for sure if i am truley ovulating. I will keep u all up to date and i i get that "peak fertility" on the monitor.

July 15, 2008

OMG I just read Dr Eva's response on ovulating late. I always get my positive OPK on day 19. Does this mean all my eggs are of bad quality?

Can anyone recommend a test to find out the quality of my eggs. Starting to stress now!

July 15, 2008

FSH levels on Day 3 can shed some light on the ovarian reserve but only testing the eggs while doing IVF can truly tell the egg quality.

July 15, 2008

Yea im a little stessed out about it, but what can i say? i have had 2 successful pregnancies and i believe in my heart i can have 1 more successful pregnancy. Im sure u are fine as well georgia.

July 15, 2008

Thanks HopeN and Jilly, I have a 3yo and have had I miscarriage so I can conceive and carry to full term. But that bit of info has me freaked out a bit!

July 15, 2008

YW gerogia. They way i see it is if you already had a healthy pregnancy your chances are just as good to have another healthy pregnancy. I have had 2 in a row. now TTC #3 and i hope this 1 is just as healthy. I really don't believe that ALL woman have bad quality eggs if u ovulate later then most woman. Sure it might be true for some but i don't think it's true for us.

July 16, 2008

Just thought I'd add that everything Dr Eva says echos what ALL of my Dr's have told me, both OBGYN's & RE. Thus the reason why they all urge you/us to take whatever steps ness to shorten your cycles, be it weight loss or meds. But, just like Dr Eva said it is a generalization & your Dr will be able to tell you specfically what you need to do.

Good luck ladies & hope we all get BFP's soon:)))