baby throwing up fresh milk

July 19, 2008

Mommies, need ur advise on this. My kids is 10 W old. I stopped giving Breast milk and shes completely on Similac Advance. She seems to have started this new thing of throwing up milk after feeding the last 10 days. No, its not curdled milk, its just fresh milk. She used to drink 3.5 -4 Oz easily and now she wont take more than 3 Oz and that too about 20 ml or so spits up. I burp her after every oz, carry her for an hour and then lay her down she spits up fresh milk. This is very new to her. Have any of yall experienced this? Earlier, she used to spit up, really less like a teaspoon or less. This doesnt seem to happen in the night times though (or may be I dont see it coz we are both asleep). Today after her milk slightly less than 3 Oz and burping, we took her on her carseat and stroller and the milk just came out so much. Have any of yall experienced this with ur babies? Im really worried. Ive tried diluting the formula and feed her more often, but wont work. I told my Dr 3 days ago that shes spitting milk, he wasnt too concerned or he just mistook that for usual baby spit up.

July 19, 2008

HopeN is she throwing up fresh milk or formula?

July 19, 2008

I meant to say non curdled formula. Like its not digested, just looks like freshly made formula. Im sorry its not regular milk that we drink

July 19, 2008

babies spit up a lot, and sometimes it seems like an alarming amount but as long as she doesnt seem in pain, seems satisfied, and gains weight its probably ok. you can always try a new formula too.

but always trust your mommy instincts if it seems wrong to you, take her to the dr, if only for peace of mind

July 19, 2008

I know..but this seems to be non curdled, like non digested food is that still ok?

My Dr didnt seem concerned but u know how moms feel hard to be convinced sometimes.

July 19, 2008

yeah very normal. that usually means the tummy is too full but you said she's eating less? is she eating more often?

oh yes i know!!!

July 19, 2008

she seems to be eating lesser than normal. She used to drink 4-4 1/4 Oz every 3 hrs but now, its 3 Oz every 2.5-3 hrs and then all the spit up. No projectile but it just flows down like a mini waterfall. Why would she feel full all of a sudden? shudnt she be drinking more?

Im getting a weighing scale 1st thing tomorrow. God I hate this. I had this obsessive behaviour during pregnancy and now to the baby as well

July 19, 2008

Hope I think most babies throw up at some point..carleigh really did on simlac but I swithed to Carnation Good Start and that was alot better much earier to diagest but not sure if it's in canada only!

good luck :)

I was SOOO obsessive with Carleigh..to make you feel better I weighed her every day and wrote down every meal temp pee and poop for the first well over 6 months..it was crazy..I hope i dont do it this time but I may, it's so hard not to totaly need to make sure everything is perfect..I completly understand

July 20, 2008

Hi Hope- I agree with Meghan- Babies spit up alot... and my son also did the same as yours.. it was like nice smooth milk.. He would spit up alarming amounts, almost as much as I just fed him.. we were on Similac too, I called my doctor and she said its normal, but I could not see how it could be.. so after him doing this at EVERY feeding, I switched to Similac Soy, which did nothing to help... finally we switched to Similac Allimentum.. and that seemed to do the trick, along with a Rx for Zantac.( This took us 9 weeks to figure out, as I wanted to give each new formula a chance..)

If it persists, call the Ped. again to make sure.. Here are some possibilites it could be:

the baby is allergic to the formula

the baby has gastroesophageal reflux (Acid Reflux)

the baby has an area of blockage or narrowing in the intestinal tract (pyloric stenosis) Most are diagnosed as young infants for this and the spitting up gets progessively worse, most likely not sudden onset)

Also try feeding her in a more upright position and have her sit up with your support or in a boucer chair.. sometimes putting them on your shoulder pushes on their tummy's causing them to spit up.

July 20, 2008

caryn your wonderful you always have so much great info :)

July 20, 2008

THanks Caryn, That was very useful information. Great idea abt not carrying on shoulders. Ill try the other option. She has been on Similac since day 1 and absolutely no issues until the last few days. Could alergy develop after 2 months?

Also, in the night times, 0 spit up, I mean not even a drop.

Pyloric stenosis is the only thing thats bothering me. my friends baby had that very recently and he was doing projectile vomit and almost all the milk 3 or 4 Oz would come out.

Melissa, Thanks for the support. I slept well after knowing Im not the only one that faced this

July 20, 2008

hey Hope

It probably does not happen in the night because she is not being jostled.. is she sleeping on an incline mat in the crib?

Keeping a baby upright helps.

The chances of it being Plyoric is probably slim.. as jacob was projectile too and he did not have that.. Projectile vomiting is not a pre req for that.. so do not worry too much.

Yes a milk allergy can develop.. DS did develop a light intolerance to milk as a baby, now has a soy allergy.. those with a like allergy grow out if it usually by the age of 5

July 20, 2008

*those with a milk allergy.... not like

July 20, 2008

Hope I hope things with Ella clear up! Please let us know what happens with the doc and ifyou figure anything else. If this would start to happen with Caden I want to know what to do! Hugs to you and to her!

July 20, 2008

God I hope not its the milk alergy. I have about $350 of Similac Advance stocked and I threw the receipts away. Thanks for ur advise Caryn.

Fran, we are all here to help each other out. So, u can ask all of us anytime u have a problem with Caden.

July 20, 2008

Hope if it is.. I am sure you can return it with out a recept to babies R us and take a store credit, theres never a shortage of things Ella will need!

July 20, 2008

You can def return the formula to babies r us without receipt, in exchange for another type.

If she's spitting up more than 3 tablespoons of formula at every single feeding and seems to be losing weight, seems to have a hard time taking the bottle, like sucking and pulls her legs up while sucking then call your doc. She def could have an allergy to the formula, colic, gas, or even a more serious issue like what Caryn had said in her post.

Let me know how's she's doing :) Poor little girly!!!!!

July 20, 2008

If Walmart sells the type of formula you have, they will also take it back without a receipt.

July 20, 2008

I got it at Sams. So, hopefully they will take it back.

So far today, no spitting. Since last night, no spitting.

I reduced the quantity to 3 Oz/feed. I carried her and always put her in an upright position and that helped. No jolting her even by mistake. But Im sure its not going to be this way..

Having said that do yall still think its milk alergy? Im more comfortable discussing with moms than Drs seriously experience is so valuable.

July 20, 2008

Spoke too soon. She drank 3 Oz 1 hr ago and then she asked for more so I gave her 20 mins ago about 2 Oz and after burping, a whole lot of semi curdled stuff came out with the burp. This is different from the usual spit up which doesnt accompany a burp.

July 20, 2008

Well that is at least good that it is going down. :) B/c I know the curdled stuff has at least made it down to her stomach. Maybe it is just a phase that she is going through. Babies are so confusing! Hoep your feedings go better tonight!

July 20, 2008

Hope everything you are describing with Ella is what Cameron was doing when he was on the regular formula. As I told Fran, it truely will NOT hurt her to try a can of another formula and see how it goes.

July 20, 2008

Hey sar...Caden is doing better...knock on wood! I hope is issues were just switching from breast to bottle feeding. But we will see! He sees the doc on Wednesday. Maybe I will be able to take him off the soy. I feel weird that he isn't getting milk. Probably not an issue, but I feel alittle weird about it!

July 20, 2008

I understand, I felt the same when Cam was on soy but it did said that it had that dna or rba or mfo vitamin, or whatever it is for brain and eye development...lmao!!!

I'm so glad to hear he's doing better for you, poor lil guy!!!

July 20, 2008

Your funny! Give Cama hug for me!

July 20, 2008

lol, will do and ditto for that cutie pie Caden :)

July 20, 2008

Its the silliest question of them all. How would I know shes getting enough milk? She is cheerful and kicks her legs and active and doesnt really cry..The only thing is this spit up. Sleeping is as usual, pooping, pee everything is unchanged. Can I assume she is ok?

July 20, 2008

Hope- as long as she is producing wet diapers as much as before and she is gaining weight then she is getting the milk you are giving her :)

July 21, 2008

you know she's getting enough if she is content until about 3 to 4 hours after a feeding. If she starts to fuss and act hungry after only 2 hrs then go up by 1/2 an ounce at a time.

July 21, 2008

ok how true is this?

Negative ppl and bad wibes causing babies to fuss and upset their routine? My best friend told me that this morning.

July 21, 2008

Hope- I am not sure how negative people upset babies routines, but I have read that if you maintain a calm demeanor with the baby, he/she will respond better to that, rather than a loud house with lots of yelling.. however I am not sure any real studies have been done on this..

Ella seems like a happy go lucky baby from what you have described.. some babies just cry more than others.. and I do not think it has to do with negative vibes

July 21, 2008

THanks Caryn we had some visiotrs that were just loud,negative and very jealous. All this started only after they visted us. THey came home to spend time with the baby and stayed for about a week. So, just wondering all possibilities.

Ur right abt the calm demeanor. Im trying soothing music and dim light while feeding and it seems to help as she sleeps instead of kicking and spitting.

July 21, 2008

i think that if you're baby is in an environment with yelling and stress then the baby becomes aggitated easily.

July 21, 2008

One more thing pls help me with this..Ive read digestion starts as soon as the food enters the stomach. So, if fresh milk comes up after 1 hr (happened again 1 hr after food right now), could it be that the amount she throws up hadnt reached her tummy and was still hangin around in the esophagus or the throat?

Also she caughs now and then recently and the Dr did tell me thats coz she cant swollow completely as yet. Sorry to ask so many times but Ill probably be more brave next time around :) Thanks for being nice to me :))

July 21, 2008

sorry that question I can't help ya with...lol...I have no clue there. Hope, don't be afraid to ask your doc questions, gosh you're a first time mommy, of course you'll have a bunch of questions :)))))))

July 21, 2008

HI HOpe-

Does she choke or Have troble managing the initial sucks of the bottle??

I only ask, and probably not your case.. but my DS had issues coordinating the suck, swallow and breath - we wnet for a baruim swallow test, no biggie and we discovered he had a very mild case od dysphia(SP?) and it was an easy fix, we had to thicken his formula with a product called "thick it" I am not sure if the formula not reaching the stomach means its stuck in the esophagus..sorry

July 21, 2008

No Caryn, none of those symptoms..Thanks for sharing your experience..

Sarah the pic is soo cute

July 21, 2008

Thanks Hope :) My dog was like..who is this person on me and why is he on me????? It was funny.

July 22, 2008

Mommies do yall think if this unbearable summer heat can cause this kind of spit up, indigestion? Seems like its happening last 2 weeks which is when it started getting too hot in here?

July 22, 2008

I think yes it could. Hey think about it, are you very hungry when it's so darn hot out? Sometimes I even feel sick when it's too hot and humid out. Cameron usually eats 5oz every 3-4 hours but since the heat rash, he eats 3-4oz every 3-4 hours and most of the time it's pullin teeth to get him to finish up to 4oz. The last few nights he's gone to bed with only eating 2-3oz and then sleeps for 6 hours. Hope also, do you warm up her formula? My ped says to only warm to room temp, never warmer than that, and with this heat I barely warm it at all, just take the chill out.